tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post3156611267809003827..comments2023-10-17T20:50:15.495-07:00Comments on Groupname for Grapejuice: Meereschal MacMuhun Moon Child Me 2: Mirrorsznorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-8038844639137585332022-04-07T15:33:42.859-07:002022-04-07T15:33:42.859-07:00EL Saturn #534 THE BODY ELECTRIC | TØS
https://www...EL Saturn #534 THE BODY ELECTRIC | TØS<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvSXZZyEyaYOhHOohOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvSXZZyEyaYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-20133359159910255052015-12-21T13:52:38.294-08:002015-12-21T13:52:38.294-08:00"Monopolies of knowledge are intolerable
..."Monopolies of knowledge are intolerable<br /> The use of the arts for sectarian warfare! ugh.<br /> The use of the arts as a technique for salvation!<br /> as a channel of supernatural grace!<br /> The validity of the rituals is entirely in the cognitive order. <br /> Art is imitation of the process of apprehension.<br /> clarification of " " ". "<br /><br />...then ritual-infused mass media is<br /> abuse/exploitation of the process of apprehension<br /> . weaponization of " " " ?Linus Minimaxhttp://www.fivebodied.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-87265430539581106122015-10-06T10:01:22.198-07:002015-10-06T10:01:22.198-07:00I suspect that electricity with soul is the best o...I suspect that electricity with soul is the best option. A balance of artifact and epiphany!<br /> <br />The tech. singularity as artifact, dances with human inspiration… twirling ‘round a: Axis: Bold as Love!<br /> Jack Hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07601886076987129483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-21042464338609113132015-10-06T03:47:16.540-07:002015-10-06T03:47:16.540-07:00Ah, so electricity with a soul is alright? That...Ah, so electricity with a soul is alright? That's the thing with McLuhan, though. He thought that it was precisely the electric media which began to allow the West to escape from the soul-stifling straight jacket of centuries of print domination.The rediscovery of psychedelics and the "soul" corresponded with the development of the electric media environment. Electric Ladyland!znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-12849129239634865222015-10-05T23:58:45.948-07:002015-10-05T23:58:45.948-07:00That "you" are experienced... I have no ...That "you" are experienced... I have no doubt. Hard to escape the duality of 3D existence... Heads or tails? The Demiurge flips the cosmic coin.<br /><br />ps - Jimi's electric had soul...Jack Hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07601886076987129483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-77799379391303619832015-10-05T22:40:02.956-07:002015-10-05T22:40:02.956-07:00"R U Experienced?" You ask even after I ..."R U Experienced?" You ask even after I lead with Through the Looking-Glass and Tarkovsky?<br /><br />"Christ or Antichrist? Heaven or hell? Like Schrödinger's cat, both states exist simultaneously." I very much agree, but this seems at odds with the either/or exclusivity of the rest of your message.<br /><br />Psychedelics are technology, technology can be psychedelic. McLuhan: "LSD is the lazy man's Finnegans Wake." Ordinary perception, in itself, is a constant miracle.<br /><br />"R U Experienced?" Didn't Jimi play an electric?znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-81160109302825422442015-10-04T04:20:37.131-07:002015-10-04T04:20:37.131-07:00Znore...
The purely technological global interfac...Znore...<br /><br />The purely technological global interface... that of Internet, mobile, social media... the electric mind, the AI or "technological singularity" devoid of human partnership... devoid of soul... is the facsimile... the Antichrist. This is the Wachowskis' "Matrix" nightmare scenario.<br /><br />The purely human global interface... The human global mind (human Internet?) is the psychedelic mind. This psychedelic mind was/is nature's answer or response to the global electric mind.<br /><br />Christ or Antichrist? Heaven or hell? Like Schrödinger's cat, both states exist simultaneously.<br /><br />The "truly human" (in Herbert's "Dune" sense) psychedelic interface with such, is essential. Humanity's evolutionary success depends upon our ability to interject or interface "soul" into the equation. This will be the IA (intelligence amplification) networked awakening. <br /><br />R U Experienced?<br />Jack Hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07601886076987129483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-37570722971499275532015-10-03T01:31:20.432-07:002015-10-03T01:31:20.432-07:00And perception is primary. What's beyond is on...And perception is primary. What's beyond is only bark, horns and tentacles.znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-25232049103472495272015-10-03T01:27:10.363-07:002015-10-03T01:27:10.363-07:00Sounds like Joyce! Please be patient. I plod throu...Sounds like Joyce! Please be patient. I plod through this at my own pace with the aim to make it so clear that my own mother could understand where I'm coming from. People haven't yet grokked Ezra Pound, let alone the Wake. Lots of exegesis to soak in. Thanks to you and Bob for keeping it in spin.znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-24415250730511999892015-10-02T05:40:36.539-07:002015-10-02T05:40:36.539-07:00The epiphany is the trigger of anamnesis; flow my ...The epiphany is the trigger of anamnesis; flow my tears, McLuhan said.wklaus23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02428620309284261667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-78319828545243293882015-10-02T00:36:04.162-07:002015-10-02T00:36:04.162-07:00The work of Bob Dobbs goes beyond just the pointin... The work of Bob Dobbs goes beyond just the pointing out, and explaining tetrad manangement explained by Mc Luhan, and the interest of the Secret Agencies on mc Luhan´s work. Bob Dobbs, explains how we are beyond the Global Village, and the real hidden ground, the new "occult", the Mystery Landscape becoming visible, and how like in one day of the life of Ulysses ( which sounds like eleusis) all archetypes resonate. The epiphany is the "recollected lucidity", the retrieval of the "knewing".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01744985786799642899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-14525554851146169472015-10-01T06:49:10.388-07:002015-10-01T06:49:10.388-07:00Strong Man PONG ManStrong Man PONG Manwklaus23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02428620309284261667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-5419070703228006192015-10-01T06:46:42.359-07:002015-10-01T06:46:42.359-07:00Exactly. New labyrinth, new Stephen, new beast. ...Exactly. New labyrinth, new Stephen, new beast. It's the Pac Man/Shining bit.wklaus23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02428620309284261667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-82455971038211858462015-10-01T04:49:25.946-07:002015-10-01T04:49:25.946-07:00Was it the Minotaur or was it a chicken?Was it the Minotaur or was it a chicken?znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-37907356323660254982015-10-01T04:46:39.014-07:002015-10-01T04:46:39.014-07:00Richard, thanks for your kindness. I'm very ha...Richard, thanks for your kindness. I'm very happy if this creates openings.znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-45241767067761894482015-10-01T03:44:50.575-07:002015-10-01T03:44:50.575-07:00Many thanks, Bob. One of the great treats of this ...Many thanks, Bob. One of the great treats of this exploration is the knowledge that your work is out there waiting. Your influence, I'm coming to realize, is immense and I'm sure that much of what I've cited has been made available, directly or indirectly, because of your efforts. I hope that this points more seekers in your direction. <br /><br />What is interesting to me, though, is that I did not come to the "deep" through media studies, or McLuhan, or even your work, but through Joyce, Blake, Yeats and most recently Pound. All of this takes us to the same understanding. McLuhan has always been on my radar as an important thinker, but I had always thought of him in an exoteric, Wired magazine, media-prophet kind of way. I later heard about his connection with the Wake -- likely through Terence McKenna, but even Terence is surprisingly superficial in this regard. Yet it was the poets that led me to McLuhan as a bard of the old tradition. If I've got anywhere near the "deep," this is why.<br /><br />I came across that Kroker link in Theall's essay, but I'm eager to dig into it. I studied Baudrillard previously so I also know Kroker from that. This all makes me reconsider Baudrillard and the Frenchies as well! What arcane nuggets are lurking there? I'll definitely get into Deleuze's weirdness at some point. The links are very much appreciated. Please keep them coming.<br /><br />Next stop: Wyndham Lewis on a Donkey.znorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870745426523284218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-21579734434751290172015-10-01T00:57:22.140-07:002015-10-01T00:57:22.140-07:00Theall papers very good well done Bob I enjoy read...Theall papers very good well done Bob I enjoy reading this, that and the other bits. Like the 1984 Kroker Link, knew he had something to say on this and the Baudrillard type language so too speak. Anyroad well done Znore for bundling all the Aquinas stuff together. The spiritual links and references opens up all sorts of areas for creativity and histories.robbwindowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01814028888863377086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-28234514877875005352015-09-30T22:23:31.149-07:002015-09-30T22:23:31.149-07:00Isn't technology a hoot? It is the labyrinth,...Isn't technology a hoot? It is the labyrinth, yes, but it is also the teleportation device. Imagine traipsing through the endless maze to no avail, when suddenly the Minotaur is upon you. Your bloody and brutal death is certain! Until you click the button in your right hand and there you are, at your desk, on your couch, at the park. <br /><br />What is the value of this convenient escape the old man argues? <br /><br />Have you ever even seen the beast old man? <br /><br />We stand next to, inside, and miles above the bestial playground. Our ancestors may scoff at the suggestion, but our beast is not their beast; the perversion of incarnation is an all encompassing one. Giuseppe the plumber saves the day!wklaus23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02428620309284261667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6600594361812328513.post-3554707274835153762015-09-30T17:40:30.970-07:002015-09-30T17:40:30.970-07:00Bravo znore!! Now it's going to get verrry int...Bravo znore!! Now it's going to get verrry intrusting. Next to Kroker in his 1984 book on McLuhan, Innis, and Grant where he does a short exegesis on the influence of Thomas Aquinas on McLuhan's "perception, drama of cognition, and incarnation" theme (and cites the 1954 essay you're using), and Theall's discussion in his THE VIRTUAL MARSHALL McLUHAN (2001) (hear my 1990 dialogue with Theall on these matters http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/catalog/Bob_Audio/Theall/1990-07-05--Theall.mp3 ), you are the first of your generation to begin to grapple with the "deep" McLuhan that has not been popularly understood. Of course, it's fun for me to read your summary of this aspect of McLuhan's probe since it has been a major theme on my radio shows for over 30 years. Your essay here will serve as an extremely useful introduction for my listeners to the complex themes I have engaged publicly for a long time. Thanks for that! The phrase I coined for the conspiracy of tactility that McLuhan is trying to expose via FINNEGANS WAKE (1939) is "tetrad-management" which is displayed in my portrait of the Android Meme (to cite Eric McLuhan in his recent interview with your colleagues at "The Sync Book", an "ambigram plus polygram") here: http://fivebodied.com/archives/audio/catalog/Bob_Documents/tinynote/Tiny_Note_Chart.pdf . Note the phrase "Stages of Apprehension" in the Dobbs quadrant at the bottom right. Eager beavers of "Groupname for Groupjuice" can jump into my recorded series explaining the Tiny Note Chart http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/phatic_communion/24_TinyNoteChart as well as the deeper Dobbs Formula Chart http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/phatic_communion/23_FormulaChart . Again, I'm eager to see where you're going to go with this. Alex Jones et al., hope you survive znore's "work"! (I was on his show in 2002 but he couldn't understand me.)Bob Dobbshttp://ionandbob.comnoreply@blogger.com